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UPDATE. Oct 4, 2009: 
Apparently, Restorecd4u.com is a genuine company. The recovery CD I ordered from them on Sep 28, 2009 via their website arrived on Oct 3, 2009. In my original post, I mentioned that they have no physical address listed on their website. From the return address on the recovery CD, it appears they are based in Benton, Arkansas.

I inserted the CD into my computer and it was restored to it's original factory settings. The only down side is that I lost all data in the computer and had to re-install various software all over again. As the saying goes, it is not a question of if, but when your computer will crash. Learn from my experience. Make sure you take the following precautions:

  • Back up your data frequently.

  • Make a recovery disc for your computer.

  • Don't waste your money on computer warranties. They are almost useless. Read my sad experience at Best Buy.

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Original Post: I own a HP Pavilion a530n desktop computer. It was purchased brand new from Best Buy, Laurel, Maryland in 2004. I turned it on today and instead of the Windows welcome screen, I saw a black screen with the following ominous message "NTLDR is missing. Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart" (I understand NTLDR stands for New Technology Leader).

I pressed Ctrl+Alt+Del and each time the same black screen appeared again. After pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del for the uptenth time, I decided to press F10 before the black screen appeared. That took me to the HP System Recovery screen. The screen gave me the option of clicking "Yes" to continue with System Recovery or "No" to try Windows XP repair features.

I clicked "No" to try Windows XP repair features and it took me right back to the first black screen. I then went back to HP System Recovery and this time, I clicked "Yes" to continue with System Recovery. Another screen appeared with a message saying that it is "Recovering Windows XP and application Files...". 

However after it copied 5% of the files, an error message appeared stating "Problen (sic) in extracting process: (file name) couldn't be opened". I restarted my computer over and over again and each time it got to 5%, the same error message appeared.

A Regrettable Visit to Best Buy: Since the computer still has a valid Best Buy warranty, I took it to their Laurel, Maryland branch. When I got there, I explained the problem to the technician on duty. He said he understands the cause of the problem but added that they cannot help me. 

I reminded him that my $271 three year warranty is still valid. He replied that the warranty only covers hardware and not software problems. He added that if I wanted Best Buy to fix the problem, then I had to pay another $129.95. I told him that is a lot of money and he advised me to call HP and see if they can help me.

Markos Moulitsas, the founder of Daily Kos once said in his blog that these warranties are almost useless. Now I understand what he means. Dave Ramsey of the Dave Ramsey Show also has the same view. If I had known this is how Best Buy warranties work, I wouldn't have purchased it.

A Call to HP: I took my computer back home and logged on to HP.com for help. On their support page, I clicked the Live Chat button and started chatting with one of their reps regarding my problem. A full transcript of our chat can be seen here. At the end of the chat, the HP rep gave me a number to call and order recovery discs. 

I called the number and the HP rep on duty informed me that HP never made recovery discs for the HP Pavilion a530n. They also did not ship recovery discs with the computer. He kept suggesting that I buy a new computer since my computer is old. I reminded him that the computer is only 5 years old but that did not stop him from trying to convince me to buy a new one.

When I realized I was not going to get any help from him, I bid him goodbye and then got back on the internet. In the course of my research, I came across two websites that advertised recovery discs for sale - ComputerSurgeons.com and RestoreCD4u.com. Both sites had recovery discs for my computer. But while ComputerSurgeons.com had it for $27, RestoreCD4u.com was selling it for $13.95 so I placed an order with them.

In my opinion, Restorecd4u.com does not look like a professional outfit. For instance, they do not have a contact phone, address or email listed on their website. Also it appears they are unable to process credit cards as I was directed to Paypal on checkout.

They said my recovery disc will be delivered in 5 to 8 days. To be continued...

By Jay in MD
Posted Sep 29, 2009

UPDATE: On October 1, 2009, I received the following email from Restorecd4u.com regarding my recovery disc order. Maybe they are a genuine outfit after all. I will post another update once the disc arrives.

RestoreCD4u
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Order Number: 9***
Detailed Invoice: http://restorecd4u.com/accountDate****** 
Ordered: Monday 28 September, 2009
The comments for your order are
U.S. Postal Service 9101******************
Your order has been updated to the following status.
New status: Shipped
Please reply to this email if you have any questions.

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My Chat With An HP Rep

  
PC Owner : I turned my computer on and saw "NTLDR is missing. Press Ctrl Alt Del to restart". I pressed that & the same msg appeared. I then pressed F10 for Sys Recovery. While copying the files during Sys Recovery, it says "Problem is extracting process..."
[An agent will be with you shortly.]
[You are now chatting with HP Rep .]
HP Rep : Welcome to HP Total Care for desktop computer, my name is HP Rep. Please give me a minute while I quickly review the issue description
PC Owner : Okay.
PC Owner : The problem is with my other computer not this one.
HP Rep : If I understand the issue correctly, we are not able to boot the PC and we got error message as NTLDR is missing. Am I correct?
PC Owner : Yes
HP Rep : May I know the Operating system that we are using on the computer?
PC Owner : Windows XP
HP Rep : Thank you for providing the information.
HP Rep : Caller, May I please know the product and serial number of the computer to assist you with the most compatible resolution for your computer. You can get the information about Product number and serial number by pressing the keys like “Ctrl+Alt+S” from your keyboard.
We can find the product and serial number on the rear panel of the computer on a white bar coded sticker which is followed by a P/n and a S/n.
PC Owner : Serial Number is MXK4140F63
PC Owner : System Number is DW234A-ABA
HP Rep : Thank you for providing the information.
HP Rep : Caller, may I know whether the issue PC is near you now?
PC Owner : It is in another room near me
HP Rep : Alright.
HP Rep : Caller, there are two options, once it repair, if it is not fixing then we need to perform system recovery.
PC Owner : Okay.
HP Rep : So restart the PC and press F11 which takes you to the recovery console and select the repair option and perform it.
PC Owner : May I tell you what I have already done?
HP Rep : Sure, please go ahead
PC Owner : I pressed F10 and it took me to System Recovery. I then selected the option of trying Windows XP repair feature. It took me back to NTLDR is missing. I restarted the computer and pressed F10 again and this time selected HP System Recovery. It started copying the files and stopped after 5%. I restarted many times with the same result.
HP Rep : Alright.
HP Rep : Before performing system recovery we need to take back up of the data, but you need to take the PC to the local store to take back up of the data.
HP Rep : As the PC is not booting up.
HP Rep : Caller, may I know whether you created recovery disk for your PC?
PC Owner : No, I don't have a recovery disk
PC Owner : Where is your local store? I'm in MD...
HP Rep : Sure.
HP Rep : Caller, as you didn't create the recovery disk for your PC. so you need to purchase the recovery disk for your PC.
PC Owner : From where?
HP Rep : I give you the detail how to order recovery disk
HP Rep : Please note down the part number and the description: 5069-6846 Recovery CD-ROM - Pavilion, XP Home Edition (42NAHEBLU) 
HP Rep : call (800) 227-8164 between 5 AM and 5 PM Pacific Time, Monday thru Friday. 
HP Rep : May I know the state you are from
PC Owner : Maryland.
HP Rep : And city?
PC Owner : (I give my city)
HP Rep : Thank you for the information'
PC Owner : Once I get the recovery disk, what is the next step? Do I call you back?
HP Rep : Once you get the recovery disk, insert the disk and try to perform repair, if you are not able to perform please get back to us, we are here to assist you.
PC Owner : Okay. Thanks a lot.
HP Rep : You are welcome. It’s my pleasure assisting you today. You have a great day. 
PC Owner : No. Let me call that number. Goodbye.
HP Rep : Alright.
HP Rep : Thank you for contacting HP Total Care Real-Time chat support. For any further assistance, please contact us again at: 
http://www.hp.com/support/chat 

This chat took place on the internet on 09/28/2009. Names of participants have been masked for privacy.

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